Wednesday, June 08, 2005

Revolution pad, Revolution games and more

Hi guys, What's up?

Let's go to talk about the Revolution

Despite I'm not updating my blog everyday, I keep writing it. I don't forget it.
Don't care about it...


So, today, I'm gonna talk about "the revolution" more...

A revolution needs revolution things. It's obvious, doesn't it?
In this case (Videogames System), Revolution needs revolution games to can
play "in a different wayS"(...), for example.

Playing to revolution games means can controller things in a different way and
see new concepts of videogames, at least.
Nintendo has a great (and new) second party to can do that.
To can do revolution games and can play them.
It doesn't means you won't see "casual games" or "Nintendo games".
It means Nintendo Revolution will have many kinds of games (It's necessary to can call all gamers -retro gamers inluded...-).


I can't tell you guy what's the name of the new second party. But I prefer to call him: "R-SP".

R-SP is working hard. So hard that you'll be impressed when Revolution will be launched.
Yeah, it will probably be the best launch for any system.

You'll see a new adventure game(...). The best of all is that you'll be the main character(...)
I can't talk about it anymore. I know you'll be impressed when you see it.
The controller pad lets to you handle this game(...). I think Revolution will eclipse all systems.
And will probably blow "the others" away.

On the other hand, let me tell you guy another thing about Broadway:

"-Broadway to be built on existing 90nm technology-" (...)

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I can't talk about revolution pad more but I think you can describe it reading this blog.

NOW, there are TWO 3rd parties who are thinking about if they will develop to revolution.
They are really impressed and that's why with the controller pad they can "take off" too many ideas.

To sum up, I will finish with a quote from an Internal source of a Nintendo's employee:

"I've played it. It's unbelievable. But they will keep working more on the pad to complete the game(...). I like the design. It's wonderful"

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I wanna answer some of your questions:

-->My question (I hope you'll answer it) is very simple:
do you "feel" with your hands or with your eyes?
This is the only mystery that's torturing me (>.<)" Do you feel with both things. With your eyes you'll can see the game on a Hight Definition TV. -->Two questions- PLEASE ANSWER IN NEXT POST!
1. You say a new "second party" will work with Nintendo.
Do you mean a new gaming company that is not Nintendo?
In America, we always call that "third party support..."
is second party something special?

Second party is a company who works ONLY FOR Nintendo (in this case).

2. The DS was the first handheld (and console) to have a
touch screen, but it wasn't too revolutionary in the eyes of most.
Are you sure this touch pad will be a true gaming revolution?

If we compare both "controllers". DS has a touch screen.
It's revolutionary. And we can consider it as a little step.
Revolution will have a BIG step.



-->Anyway, I have a question:

Since you're saying that these developers
will be putting out games that only the Revolution can handle,
is it simply because of visual performance, or is it more than that?

It is more than that. truly.

-->I have heard other truthfull info about a cooling system from
"innovatek" apparently 125% more efficient/low power/moresilent...
to be used in the nintendo revolution.
Can u confirm this information?

I can tell you it won't be on Revolution.

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See you later...later...

49 Comments:

Blogger Dochuki said...

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5:52 PM  
Blogger Dochuki said...

http://www.consolewars.de/news/newsdisplay.php?idx=8754

Exclusive interview with Osoko!

5:55 PM  
Blogger project_g said...

Hi Osoko,

I'm just wondering when will Revolution launch(we know in 2006 but when in 2006)? Will there be any sort of special bundles? What/how many Nintendo games will be launched at the same time? How much third party support do you think Revolution will get? Nintendo said they'd have lots of third party games for Gamecube but that never happened.

Thanks.

6:36 PM  
Blogger Vivumaqua said...

Is Bioware keen to develop for the Revolution? I have heard that there are even bigger fish that may be interested.

6:50 PM  
Blogger Vivumaqua said...

Nintendo has already said that they won't be supporting high defenition standards, so why mention HD TV?

6:53 PM  
Blogger Vivumaqua said...

90 Nm process makes sense if we assume Nintendo isn't going to launch late

7:08 PM  
Blogger Vivumaqua said...

Does the rev use cooling technology from Sapphire?

7:20 PM  
Blogger Vanfarnel said...

hey dochuki can you please tell us what that interview says because i dont know and im sure im not the only one

9:52 PM  
Blogger TwilightPrincess said...

You can use this translator to see the interview page in English:


Babel Fish Translator


DS for free

9:54 PM  
Blogger Nomadx469 said...

gamestop.com is takin preorders for revolution games for a march 2006 release dates.could this mean antthing. look for your self


http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?sortby=default&searchtype=quicksearch&searchcount=12&keyword=&platform=34&find.x=5&find.y=6

10:35 PM  
Blogger Vivumaqua said...

Thanks for that Nomadx469

12:18 AM  
Blogger gimpynerd said...

Is Nintendo officially retracting their comment that they will lauch before at at the same time as PS3? I've been hearing rumors of 2007...

1:24 AM  
Blogger Serginho said...

Ride on!!:)

Well Osoko nice to see you again it's been a long time since you didn't say anything...

You make a nice post there...;) I think you answered many questions! BUt as for the second party you talked about...they're making an adventure game is that it?? I'm wondering if they are a new one second party or if they were a third party that now are working only for Nintendo...can you comment that Osoko?

Another thing...you know when Revolution will be launched?? I've read somewhere that will be on 2007 at least on Europe if that's true that would be a very very bad step for Nintendo...:( I mean Xbox 360 will be this year, PS3 will be in first quarter of 2006 (I guess) now Revolution 2007?! :| That can't be true!!

Hope to see you soon

Cheers

2:40 AM  
Blogger Master Bratak said...

Hello, Osoko!

Thanks for answering my question about the cooling system!
I still have another question though will you please answer it:
The patent concerning Nintendo about "cube-mapping" does it have anything to do with Revolution?

Or if you prefer not to answer the above question:
What kind of cooling system will be used?

Thankyou for your time!

5:34 AM  
Blogger aavan said...

Hi Osoko, please answer these questions in a next post.

Will the Revolution will be a wi-fi hotspot for the DS ?
Is that possible that the DS can play online through the Revolution, or the DS will only download demos through the Revolution online service ?

6:19 AM  
Blogger pn18 said...

"Will the Revolution will be a wi-fi hotspot for the DS ?
Is that possible that the DS can play online through the Revolution, or the DS will only download demos through the Revolution online service ?"
no, how should it work? you need a wlan router anyway.

my question:
Does nintendo call the new SuperSmashBrothers, SSB: Fire?

greets

8:22 AM  
Blogger Memphis-Ahn said...

READ THIS IT MIGHT ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS!!!

@ Project_G

Revolution will come in late 2006 in Japan and probably America.
2007 for us europeans.


@ Master Bratak

Cube-mapping is suposedly helpful in the creation of games. It suposedly makes game-making much more easyer. That is why they said a team of 20 people could make a game.


@ Avan and Product_Number_18

Actualy, Avan did ask a good question.
The DS will have connection to the Revolution so it will most likely be able to serve as a hotspot.
Dont forget you need some kind of way to make the Revolution online first.


@ Product_Number_18

The new SSB will most likely not be named that, I think it will start with R or RS (Revolutionary System) or something of the kind.
Like the DS.
Whomever made that blog is most likely lying.

9:30 AM  
Blogger pn18 said...

yeah, i though he ask, if you will be ale to connect the ds through the rev WITHOUT a router to the internet.

9:55 AM  
Blogger AJ said...

Hey,

I'm still not sure what to think of all this stuff, but this guy did strike a nerve with me. He said the Broadway is being made in IBM's East Fishkill, NY factory. I did a double take on this because it is literally 10 minutes from my house. I know some people that work there too. Hmm... I'll have to do some spying ;)

9:57 AM  
Blogger Ned said...

Glad to see you're still alive. Keep up the good work.

1:30 PM  
Blogger Ned said...

Glad to see you're still alive. Keep up the good work.

1:30 PM  
Blogger McDaniel-77 said...

Isn't it true, that the latest machine is the most powerful machine? I think Nintendo won't suck and blow the xbox 360 away, cuase the Revolution is much more developed! Every year GPU-Power raises about 100%!

4:10 PM  
Blogger Mattias said...

Thank you for answering my question, although I was hoping you could be more elaborate, but I guess there's nothing you can do there.

I remember reading an interview in which Shigeru Miyamoto stated that there would be a new franchise being created for the Nintendo Revolution. Are you able to give out any information on this new game?

10:09 PM  
Blogger Lionbum said...

Your comments about the adventure game which you star in made me suspect the controller may feature a camera built in to it.
Do cameras feature anywhere in the plans for Revolution?

12:58 AM  
Blogger Yiannis K. said...

"Cube-mapping.... It suposedly makes game-making much more easyer. That is why they said a team of 20 people could make a game."


It's not really something that should be necessarily revolution related. It’s a pretty common practice to use cube maps in video games, webpages (cubic panoramas), and 3D graphics so far it was mainly about the skies in games and showing off inhouse arrangements in real estate websites but there is no reason why this should not be used with building's exteriors and other backgrounds as well.

I do not think a cube mapped environment would help make games with less people. It would be a bit weird if it affected HR in any way...

They meant totally different things about smaller teams needed to make a game. Most probably that they have a better more complete SDK or even that they will offer a game engine as well so you would need less programmers for a game and less time to make so you would spend time only on content and gameplay effectively decreasing development time, unless of course you need to make your own engine. But that would be a choice based on the game you want to make.

That would be a nice thing, a good base to build on.

What Cube-Mapping affects is the hardware resources needed to, lets say, display a huge city. I have not played Batten Kaitos yet but i think they have used a similar technique there.

I think what they have described in that patent is a very specific way of making panoramas.

5:28 AM  
Blogger Memphis-Ahn said...

@Mattias
Do you mean by new franchise?
I know there will be new genres if thats what you mean.


@Yiannis K.
Thanks for clearing that up :P

5:58 AM  
Blogger Master Bratak said...

Hello,
so apparently cube-mapping isn't anything special?
sort of strange because having read most of the patent it sounds like quite a big step.They say you can pre-render images on super cpus and then using cube-mapping somehow turn into an interactive environment!

Anyways I was thinking since Nintendo want to exploit wireless to the max could one think Revolution could link up to your TV wirelessly?
like you plug in a scart wireless receptor?

10:15 AM  
Blogger Master Bratak said...

Oh by the way:
http://n-gamefiles.blogspot.com/
comments updated!

10:26 AM  
Blogger Thurston said...

Is there an ethernet port?

4:29 PM  
Blogger Yiannis K. said...

A few cubic map applications

http://www.highend3d.com/xsi/tutorials/cubicmap/

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cube_map_ogl_tutorial.html

http://www.ronfrazier.net/apparition/index.asp?appmain=research/index_cube_shadow_mapping.html

if Nintendo found another super cool way to use cubic maps well that's nice too.

4:51 AM  
Blogger Jaiga said...

Thurston Howell III-

"Is there an ethernet port?"


There is currently no ethernet port. However, Iwata has said that you can connect to your computer through a USB accessory.

5:47 AM  
Blogger Memphis-Ahn said...

Indeed, no need for routers!!! So no dishing out extra money.
Man I love nintendo.

Though id like em to sell the revolution with a router included.

8:05 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Okay, now we know he's fake. "High-Definition will let you feel with your eyes..." Wrong. IGN has an official Nintendo announcement saying, specifically, that the Revolution will not support HD output. Sorry "Osoko".

4:18 PM  
Blogger Memphis-Ahn said...

Actualy... It will be Half-Half.
Nintendo said that the cutscenes (movies) will be in HD format.

I think some developers might be able to make HD games.

It does make since since the Revolution can play DVD's.

5:51 AM  
Blogger trumpet_player said...

Can you tell us some of the new features that are being used, but aren't the main revolutionary aspect? Also will part of the revolutionary aspect be in the system aswell? Do you have any info on the ne Super Smash Brothers?

11:17 AM  
Blogger trumpet_player said...

Can you tell us some of the new features that are being used, but aren't the main revolutionary aspect? Also will part of the revolutionary aspect be in the system aswell? Do you have any info on the ne Super Smash Brothers?

11:17 AM  
Blogger trumpet_player said...

Can you tell us some of the new features that are being used, but aren't the main revolutionary aspect? Also will part of the revolutionary aspect be in the system aswell? Do you have any info on the ne Super Smash Brothers?

11:17 AM  
Blogger Memphis-Ahn said...

@Trumpet_Player
It will have WiFi, or for people without a router you connect to your home computer through a USB cable.

You can download all Nintendo NES, SNES and N64 games.

The console will be very sleek (smaller than the one we saw in E3).

The interface will be interesting and make other family members want to get the console/play with it.

It will be very quiet and have very low power consumption.


Thats pretty much it, I know there are more but I cant remember them well.
About Super Smash Brothers, we know it exists.

Cheers.

4:06 AM  
Blogger qrayg said...

Here's how you can prove that you are telling the truth. All you need to is make post that has a few paragraphs of text... but certain letters in order would spell out what the "revolutionary" idea is. Then, after the big unveiling you can show us which letters spell out the idea. Simple. If you don;t do something like this, then no one will ever believe you.

1:50 PM  
Blogger Vanfarnel said...

does anyone else find it interesting that nintendo confirmed that nintendo will not use hd but osoko is still preaching this?? they said that they were not sure and than they said that no they are not supporting it. the article is on ign.com so people should go check it out

3:19 PM  
Blogger Phonic said...

actually, nintendo hasn't said that it won't use HD. It said that right now it doesn't. What that means? Well I think if Osoko worked for N, then at that time it might have been true. IOn fact, I remember some nintendo officials (Iwata I believe)saying it WOULD support HD. Obviously they changed their minds.Also, there is a slight chance that all the negative comments will make Nintendo change their minds, because they seem to be holding all options open.

What I find idiotic is why they would send out so many different signals to consumers. Perhaps Rev isn't finished yet and their testng the waters. And I think there's a powerstruggle between NOA and Kyoto, because clearly Reggie understands consumers better: every time Iwata puts his foot in his mouth, Reggie pulls it out.

11:50 PM  
Blogger Vanfarnel said...

funny that you say that considering what going on right now. u should definitely go to the new revolution articles on ign and or look at revolution today website because if your not a member you can read the articles there. o and please email nintendo also i dont care about hd i can care less i have a 58inch hdtv and i could take it or leave it

9:06 PM  
Blogger Leon said...

I'm really start to believing on you Osoko cause you said Kojima is going to develop a new game for Revolution and according to CAV it is true.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=120518

5:12 AM  
Blogger Jonny said...

anything is better than the xbox 360, seeing as playing games is better than watching tea brew...
It looks like a kettle.

2:45 AM  
Blogger 999 said...

Hey OSOKO TANAKA :-)

What do you have to say abou this:


Originally posted by: Han_Solo


Alright, here are some specs from my sources about Revolution. Its still not the complete or "Satisfied" specs, but they are the numbers that would rival xbox 360 and PS3, like i have been saying all this while.....



Revolution Specs:

CPU:

IBM Custom PowerPC 3.5 GHz + 4 internal Power PC G5 cores running at 2.5 GHz each. Each core will have 128 KB or 256 Kb L1 cache. The whole CPU will share 512 KB - 1 MB of L2 cache. As you can see they are deciding wether to go up one notch. But never the less, its a very powerful CPU with 4 custom G5 cores.

There will also be two hardware threads per core, 8 hardware threads total.

12 billion dot product operations per second

Theoritical of 10 GHz total + 3 GHz CPU speed


Revolution GPU:

ATI Custom based RN520 core. the "N" stands for nintendo, and is because the ArtX team is with them, thats why its an "N". There will be 2 GPU cores (just like the nVidia SLI motherboard with two Graphics Chips), this will use ATI's alternative, and will be the first in any console.

Both GPU's will have 256 MB's of GDDR4 memory, with an addional 16 MB of eDRAM total. eDRAM is an onboard flash memory, just like the 3 MB on the gamecubes flipper.

The cores will run at 600 MHz each, (rumours are that its possible 500 MHz each), but i doubt that.

24-to-48 way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines for each core with unified shader architecture.

Polygon Performance: 500 million triangles per second theoritical, average ingame would be around <100 Million/sec

Shader Performance: 48 billion shader operations per second

Revolution memory:

512 MB of 700 MHz Updated 1T-SRAM (its a totally redone design of something new, remember the nitrous i talked about)


Also, as I said I’m going to add more info, the Revolution will support a PPU chip (Physical Processing Chip). This chip is very new to computer architecture, and it will mainly help in the physics area. There will be 32 MB’s of its own RAM, which will link to the CPU and GPU.

There will also be a separate sound card that will support only DD 5.1 – DTS 7.1, rumours has it will have 16 MB’s, like the Cube DSP.

(cheap)because of the 90nm process. ATI and IBM have the coolest running with copper inductors. ATI also got their prototype of an aluminium based solution by Sapphire, thats cooler than water based cooling systems.

So all this will be with it to make it cheap
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Originally posted by: Han_Solo


The demo controllers, and plan sheets that have been produced, are basically of what Aries said.
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Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 4:41 pm

First off, the 3D visuals he mentioned have nothing to do with the system. Nintendo isn’t crazy.

The Revolution will not have a touch screen. Iwata has stated this before. The controller will be quite normal in the sense that it will have a d-pad and buttons. Like I said, I’m not going to tell you the revolutionary aspect of the system.

It will also have gyroscopic controls, but like Brooke said, not all the games will use it. For instance, earlier I mentioned Nintendo has a Halo killer in development for the Revolution. This game will use the gyroscopic controls for aiming as wel as other things. Our game isn’t using this function.

The controller will be wireless; he’s right about that. As you also know, the Xbox 360’s controllers will be wireless as well. Where do you think they got this idea?...

The controller will also be pressure sensitive. The pressure you put into it will determine certain things, such as movement. This is another optional capibility. Someone on Nintendo’s board mentioned this months ago. They said that “touching is good, but feeling is better.” This may sound strange, but it provides great controls. Racing games will really be helped by this control setting.

The Nintendo Revolution will also include voice control more advanced than anything seen so far. Nintendogs is just the beginning. To achieve this, Nintendo sent us headsets (similar to ones you can use for Xbox Live) that are wirelessless communicating with the console. Imagine being able to merely call for an airstrike or reload your gun by giving out commands orally. So far, we have put this feature to the test the most; as you can see, I’m excited over this feature.


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Originally Posted by Aries (April 29th, 2005 at 7:49 am)

The controller will have a similar design to the Gamecube one, but there will be more functions. The pressure sensitive controls are located on the each of the controller’s handles (right under the L and R shoulder buttons). The buttons, analog stick, and c-stick will be mapped on the front of the controller, similar to the way it is found on the Gamecube controller. The gyroscopic functionality will be located where the wire is on the Gamecube’s controller. There is another function on the controller, but I am not going to reveal it. I have given my reason for this before.



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Aries Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 6:10 am

...if your character gets the fever, the controller might get hot. Very hot....


Quote

Originally Posted by Aries (May 1st, 2005 at 11:17 am)

...I also said the controller would heat up at certain instances of the game, and some people have questioned that. The pressure sensitive controls are not used for input only. They will allow you to feel certain parts of games...


Quote

Originally Posted by Aries (April 29th, 2005 at 8:11 am)

It won’t use AAA batteries. Like I said yesterday, I will not reveal any information on the battery or disk format because they both play a role in the “revolutionary” aspect of the system.
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sources:

(for the Han-Solo Quotes) http://forums.g4tv.com (Official Console Debate/Discussion Thread v.7-9)
(for the Aries Quotes) http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=30389 (original Blog: http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48#comments)
(for the offical specs) http://cube.ign.com/articles/618/618832p1.html

4:57 PM  
Blogger TheFoxHound said...

OMG, I've met that Han_Solo guy before! I've PMed him on the G4 forums a few times and stuff. Supposedly he works for Factor 5. Also, just to note, the Revolution will have built in wifi. So if you already have a wireless network running, after some configuring you can play online.

Don't believe me? Watch the Nintendo E3 Press Conference on IGN. "Wifi out of the box."

8:18 AM  
Blogger TheFoxHound said...

Hey Osoko, you wouldn't happen to know Hirokazu Tanaka would you? ;)

8:28 AM  
Blogger Justyn Feeney said...

I am wondering if the Nintendo Revolution will be able to (burn or)write to disc to save data from the hard drive. 512MB internal hard drive Will be used fast. Will sd cards be able to be used to save too? That would be cool. The more memory the better. I like to save a lot. And If you buy a nes or snes game, can you keep them all saved. I'd hate to delete them after buying them cause of no more save space.

1:11 AM  
Blogger Justyn Feeney said...

I am wondering if the Nintendo Revolution will be able to (burn or)write to disc to save data from the hard drive. 512MB internal hard drive Will be used fast. Will sd cards be able to be used to save too? That would be cool. The more memory the better. I like to save a lot. And If you buy a nes or snes game, can you keep them all saved. I'd hate to delete them after buying them cause of no more save space.

1:14 AM  

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